Yeah! I had a real fun time with this one, and I wanted to release this drawing on the day that I officially had my last day of high-school. So here's what I've done with this one:
- Tested a new method to make the propeller of each the plane to appear as though they are spinning
- Used this tutorial: [link] for the background (mainly light streaks)
- Used a lot of smudge tool for lighting on the planes, shading in hopes of reducing that pixel look
- A new beach ball has joined the family!...... (I'm not sure if this was important)
SO..... THERE ARE NOW TWO OF YOU....FLYING BELOVED AIRCRAFT KNOWN BY ALL.....ʸᵒᵘ ᵈᵒᶰ'ᵗ ᵉᵛᵉᶰ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᶫᶦᵐᵇˢ⋅⋅⋅⋅⋅⋅ >:C (Jealous)
Spitfire, wonder bolts mlp;fim(C) /Hasbro
Art (C) me
Tutorial used in this drawing: [link]
That is just awesome! Ans great execution! Well done, friend!
more beach balls
now driving plains
Errr.... I ran out of Blazing Angels puns...
Just because Rainbow Dash is the only one observed to create a Sonic Rainboom doesn't mean that other pegasi can't break the sound barrier. By the time Rainbow created the Rainboom, she had *already* broken the sound barrier multiple times, so it's not unlikely that highly trained pegasi can go Mach 1, since it requires a lot less effort (Rainbow was able to break the sound barrier "a hundred thousand times" according to Fluttershy without making a Sonic Rainboom, which according to the Mach cone is somewhere around Mach 15). Furthermore, her "wing power rating" without breaking the sonic barrier is 16.5 according to "Hurricane Fluttershy", while other pegasi topped out at around 10 or 11. If their wing power scales linearly with their maximum airspeed, then most pegasi ought to be able to break the sound barrier, even if they don't create a Sonic Rainboom in the process.
But let's say they can't break the sound barrier. Dogfights always take place at subsonic speed because otherwise the jets would overtake one another. Pegasi can move subsonically at easily Mach 0.6, if their rate of speed in "Secret of My Excess" is anything to go by (they moved about 75 times their body length per second, which would put them around 150-180 meters per second). This is likely below their cruising speed, because cruise speed would be higher than combat speed for obvious reasons. In any case, they likely could keep up with jets, as no jet going into a combat situation would be moving faster than Mach 0.75 anyway, and because pegasi are very small (not to mention they're camouflaged by wearing blue uniforms, in the case of the Wonderbolts), they would be able to approach very close without being seen and clip the wings off jets simply by utilizing a ballistic intersecting trajectory. That does assume that they can actually damage the plane, but aircraft wings are pathetically fragile because of the their need to keep light (they're designed to withstand stress over the length of the wing, not a small area which would be around 1cm^2).
In addition, their maneuverability easily exceeds even the most advanced modern jets. Rainbow Dash pulled a snap turn that exceeded 1,600 g's in "Sonic Rainboom", and even if her body was exceptionally tough, it wouldn't be outlandish to think that they could all pull at least 1,000 g's in maneuverability (in contrast, most humans would die at less than 10 g's).
Finally, even if jets could match their speed and maneuverability turn-for-turn, there would be no way for their weapons to lock on. Pegasus ponies are roughly 1 meter tall at the shoulder, and their front cross-section is less than 1m^2. I don't know what the size requirements are for a radar unit to lock on to that sort of signature, but the design specifications shouldn't be *that* finely tuned; it would be grossly over-engineered if it were (and the engineering firm would likely let go of a few engineers for wasting its money). Furthermore, all self-propelled weapons on modern fighters usually track heat signatures, though there are exceptions which are radar-guided (but we run into the radar cross-section problem here). A pegasus would generate a little less heat than a human being, so about 300 BTU/hr, whereas the heat that thermal-guided missiles are designed to home in on is about a thousand times that, because they track the exhaust from jet engines. Cannons might be able to do some damage, but only if the pilots can guide them, and it would be extremely difficult to hit a pony without radar, which wouldn't lock on (the computer which operates it can only determine objects which are likely to be aircraft so it doesn't lock on to animals, ironically).
They're very capable creatures and have size on their side, so they could easily outmaneuver and outfight any modern jet.
Warm blooded they may be, but even the hottest living thing doesn't give off anywhere near enough heat to show up and be recognized by the computer as a legitimate target. If it were enough, then pilots would need to constantly tell the computer to ignore living things. Plus whatever heat they do produce would be drawn off anyway by wind.
They *can* track them with ground radar, but not lock on. The computerized systems that track a target are designed to filter out things like birds, which is why stealth planes can hide from radar.
And even if they could lock on, Pegasi can out-maneuver a missile, or even fly them into enemy planes or buildings. The shockwave might knock them for a loop, but the Wonderbolts train to get themselves out of spins and stalls in mere seconds.
There are solutions, involving things like chaff and flares, which would pose a health hazard, as well as flak which would shred a Pegasus. But the argument still stands that they could go toe-to-toe with modern fighter jets and have a reasonable chance at defeating them. And it goes without saying that they would be more than a match for WW2-era birds.
And I completely forgot about proximity detonations! Man, it's way too late to be talking tech . . .
Still, missiles aside, I do think a pegasus can keep up with a modern jet in terms of maneuvering power. If they had the numbers, there is a chance that they could stay behind a jet, or close enough that friendly fire protocol would keep other jets from trying to fire missiles (though they'd have to be careful around the wash). And if all else fails, pegasi seem to be quite capable of extremely rapid acceleration that could easily take them out of range quick enough to avoid a lock-on.
Either the bad ass humans totally wipe the mythos who haven't had a single cultural or technological or martial-arts technique (use of their natural abilities) advance in the last 2000+ years. Or the mythos wipe the humans who stand around slack jawed like idiots when their bullets bounce off or pass through them harmlessly.
In the same way, writers either write the ponies rationally having no chance against our modern technology and continue to blindly use the same losing tactics and unlike every other culture in the history of war don't fall under the 'progress of war' clause. Or it's the HUMANS blindly using the same losing tactics against spells and magic that completely change the 'gameplay' of the battles (teleportation, bullet proof barriers, telekenesis, etc).
You obviously prefer the literary method, where you can bring in writer's motives into the equation. I prefer the phenominological approach, where I take the evidence I'm given and try to make sense of it. In other words, what you see is what you get.
When it comes to figuring out how two universes could interact on a factual basis however, especially since this involves comparing two different technological levels, the literary method is a horrible choice. Any argument can be evaded or defeated simply by evoking "the good guys would win anyway," "the writers wouldn't write it that way," and other nonsensical statements. Therefore your argument has no bearing whatsoever on what I wrote, and doesn't change the fact that pegasi have been observed to outperform even modern jets on every conceivable level.
I was PRAISING YOU! I LOVED what you wrote. That you presented the pegasi' abilities in a perfectly logical manner.
I'm glad you liked that, despite the fact that I made an error in stating that the Sonic Rainboom takes place at Mach 15. It's actually Mach 5.
Again, I'm terribly sorry for the confusion. I really need to learn to read messages more closely . . .
Ponies, on the other hand, had been cuddled by their princess and their own herd-like, magical abilities and more peaceful and idealistic psychology, which while ensuring that they could live peaceful, harmonious existence in a sugarbowl utopia Humans couldn't achieve, also inevitably made them lack the qualities that allow Humanity to be successful on Earth, and utterly complacent and unprepared in face of threats, which was subtly pointed out in the very first episode when it involves Nightmare Moon. (Twilight Sparkle and later her friends really were the only hope they have left.)
What happens, may I ask, what happens when a culture like Humanity meets a culture like the Ponies?
Most likely the presence of the Princesses and the Magic would be the ONLY thing that prevents Humanity from completely outcompeting the Ponies, like how Euorpean conquest/colonization of North America go. Worse, those things might actually drive Humanity to pull off the impossible and ADAPT those advantages for their own uses. We have successfully adapted scientific theories into technology before, even though we have yet to fully understand it.
[link] , File 3
Ponies... would give up hatred and unite in peace in harmony to stave off the Windigoes by generating the Fires of Friendship. Windigoes for them is really like a 'Tale with a moral for kids' come to life, with a staple moral tale solution, as shown in the episode (I.e. Don't do X or monsters will get you)
Humans... would put aside their differences temporarily to fight the threat (or at least down to manageable levels), study the Windigoes extensively to find other weaknesses, find ways to defeat them (E.g. figuring how to utilize magic technologically so they could use the right kind, like the Fires of Friendship, to defeat the Windigoes), use newly developed tools against the Windigoes (and probably wipe them out, justifying the action as a war against an existential threat, any means necessary and all that self-righteous stuff), and then carry on with their original businesses.
Humans are a lot like Nightmare Eclipse, really - as a whole, they don't compromise to the environment, they make the environment compromise to THEM, consequences be damned, and had the skills and resourcefulness to back it up. And that is what made them so very, VERY wildly successful.
and WW2 warbirds...
a P51 no less...
I can die happy now.